The law of tithing was given through Moses for the children of Israel (Num 18:24). Hebrews said that the new priest was chosen from a different tribe the tribe of Judah and not Levi so it says we must change the law.
Heb 7:12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
It also says there was a dissannulling of the law
Heb 7:18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.
Heb 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.
Apostolic means to follow the apostles teaching.That means we only teach what
the apostles taught. Paul teaches about the law and grace and about care for
the church.
1Co 9:9 For it is written in the law of Moses, Thou shalt not muzzle the mouth of the ox that treadeth out the corn. Doth God take care for oxen?
1Co 9:10 Or saith he it altogether for our sakes? For our sakes, no doubt, this is written: that he that ploweth should plow in hope; and that he that thresheth
in hope should be partaker of his hope.
1Co 9:11 If we have sown unto you spiritual things, is it a great thing if we shall reap your carnal things?
1Co 9:12 If others be partakers of this power over you, are not we rather? Nevertheless we have not used this power; but suffer all things, lest we should hinder the gospel of Christ.
1Co 9:13 Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar?
1Co 9:14 Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.
1Co 9:15 But I have used none of these things: neither have I written these things, that it should be so done unto me: for it were better for me to die, than that any man should make my glorying void.
The above statement in Paul's letter shows that the pastors or ministers should be
taken care of and we notice he does not use the word tithes. We also notice that the
tithes of the old testament is what took care of the priests which were of course all
Levites. Also some of the tithes were used for the widows and fatherless and strangers
in the land. Paul teaches more on giving .
2Co 9:6 But this I say, He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully.
2Co 9:7 Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.
2Co 9:8 And God is able to make all grace abound toward you; that ye, always having all sufficiency in all things, may abound to every good work:
2Co 9:9 (As it is written, He hath dispersed abroad; he hath given to the poor: his righteousness remaineth for ever.
2Co 9:10 Now he that ministereth seed to the sower both minister bread for your food, and multiply your seed sown, and increase the fruits of your righteousness;)
2Co 9:11 Being enriched in every thing to all bountifulness, which causeth through us thanksgiving to God.
2Co 9:12 For the administration of this service not only supplieth the want of the saints, but is abundant also by many thanksgivings unto God;
That above is not talking about tithes it is talking about giving but not if you do not
have it.I hear people say it is a big part of serving God. number one is it was not a big
part when it was law.
Mat 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
Yeshua said they were doing the tithes but not the weightier things. the meaning
there is the more important things was not the tithes. Also notice when Yeshua
has said this while the law was still in effect so to say they did not have to pay
the tithes would have meant going against the law while it still existed but
notice nowhere does he teach on tithing.
People say God said will a man rob God? He did say that in malichi. the priest is
the crooks here it started in chapter 2.
Mal 2:1 And now, O ye priests, this commandment is for you.
Mal 2:2 If ye will not hear, and if ye will not lay it to heart, to give glory unto my name, saith the LORD of hosts, I will even send a curse upon you, and I will curse your blessings: yea, I have cursed them already, because ye do not lay it to heart.
Mal 3:8 Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.
Mal 3:9 Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation.
Mal 3:10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.
Where is the storehouse? are we talking food or money as far as I can tell it was
never money.
people say even Abraham tithed.
Gen 14:20 And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.
We have one account of abraham giving a tithe of the spoil of a battle. the only
record we have of abraham tithing.
next we have jacob saying to god if you bless me and be my God and be with
me then will i give you a tenth of the increase.
Gen 28:20 And Jacob vowed a vow, saying, If God will be with me, and will keep me in this way that I go, and will give me bread to eat, and raiment to put on,
Gen 28:21 So that I come again to my father's house in peace; then shall the LORD be my God:
Gen 28:22 And this stone, which I have set for a pillar, shall be God's house: and of all that thou shalt give me I will surely give the tenth unto thee.
He says there that if God will give him then he will give God a tenth of what
God has given him.
Honestly who is the people God set up tithes for? Levites it is there inheritance.
The Levites did not receive any land.
Num 18:20 And the LORD spake unto Aaron, Thou shalt have no inheritance in their land, neither shalt thou have any part among them: I am thy part and thine inheritance among the children of Israel.
Num 18:21 And, behold, I have given the children of Levi all the tenth in Israel for an inheritance, for their service which they serve, even the service of the tabernacle of the congregation.
If this was given to the levites and the priesthood changed and there is neccesity to change the law and Paul mentioned how it was to work. how is it that today many get up saying pay your tithes it is scripture. theft is a sin. if they collect tithes and do not use it for its intent like giving to the fatherless or widow or to the levites.
Who's money is it? the only thing Paul said that pastors could expect is to be taken care of. in fact can you show me one single verse that mentions tithe paying in Yeshua's Priesthood or one apostle saying to pay tithes. even if tithes helps the church can we teach lies and expect God will say "It's ok you did it for a good cause".
we are fooling ourselves. why is paul teaching about giving? Because we are no longer under the law. In the old testament we were commanded to pay tithes we also were commanded not to touch a pig not to even touch it.The old tetsament said to keep the sabbath day holy that meant several things one of which you could only walk so many steps that day. Do you walk more than a sabbaths day journey today? If so then you are breaking the old law under the ten commandments. The reason people teach tithes is because they are greedy and they are in this for money. it was never money.The one time I find that in the old testament they were going to tithe a type of tithes and god says if it be to far for thee then sell it for money then when you get there buy more goods.
Deu 14:24 And if the way be too long for thee, so that thou art not able to carry it; or if the place be too far from thee, which the LORD thy God shall choose to set his name there, when the LORD thy God hath blessed thee:
Deu 14:25 Then shalt thou turn it into money, and bind up the money in thine hand, and shalt go unto the place which the LORD thy God shall choose:
Deu 14:26 And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household,
Deu 14:27 And the Levite that is within thy gates; thou shalt not forsake him; for he hath no part nor inheritance with thee.
Num 18:24 But the tithes of the children of Israel, which they offer as an heave offering unto the LORD, I have given to the Levites to inherit: therefore I have said unto them, Among the children of Israel they shall have no inheritance.
Show one scripture where tithes is money.
Do you tithe according to the law that was setup in the old testament ?answer is no you cannot tithe like it was setup because there are no Levites around to take it from you. that is who tithes belonged to. God through the Levites.
If we teach tithes can we really call ourselves apostolic? We listen to people teach this lie but can we sit there and do nothing?Answer is no the scriptures tell you to tell or correct others.
2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2Ti 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
I ask you show me your proof for tithing. If tithing is OK then is lying OK? for whatever reason.
Rev 2:2 I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:
Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
If your opinion differs from mine. Then by all means show your proof. The word is our proof. The word will never be twisted to those who know it.
I want all of us to make it to heaven and for us all to love him with whom we have to do It says in the scriptures that if we love Yeshua we will do his will. Is theft his will?
I ask you If we are under law or command to pay tithes then isn't Paul directly going against God when he says do not give grudgingly or of neccessity? Under law God commanded us to pay tithes.Paul is saying do not give if you need it. Do you see the conflict? Are we under the law? Abraham voluntarily tithed once. Jacob said he was going to tithe to God. Does this put us under the law? Was the United States built on the foundation of the bible? Do we not support the fatherless and widows of the land with our tax? Dont we already give tithes to uncle sam?
Yeshua did not command us to teach tithing. he said a workman is worthy of his meat.
Mat 10:10 Nor scrip for your journey, neither two coats, neither shoes, nor yet staves: for the workman is worthy of his meat.
I have had people ask me why do you think you are right and all these others are wrong. let me ask them a question? there were millions and millions of catholics are they right because there are so many? Where do you get your knowledge from men or God?
Rom 3:4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.
Decide for yourself .One day we will all stand before him and with all my heart I do not want to dissappoint him. If I do it will not be because I did not try for truth at all cost.
If you want to pay tithes like abraham did. Then who kidnapped your relatives?Abraham only gave a tenth as far as we know of the spoil of the battle. You cannot pay tithes the way abraham did unless you are going to battle and take the spoil and give it to God.The real mystery is why when preachers use abraham to teach tithing. They do not even mention the fact that Abraham gave 100% not a tenth he did not keep any of the spoil he gave all of it. He gave a tenth to Melchizedek and then proceeded to give the rest back to the owners and said he would keep nothing.
Gen 14:23 That I will not take from a thread even to a shoelatchet, and that I will not take any thing that is thine, lest thou shouldest say, I have made Abram rich:
If you want to pay tithes the way jacob did then that is great. Otherwise we are no longer under the law. This is the reason Paul says do not give out of neccessity or grudgingly but God loves a cheerful giver. 2nd Corinthians 9:7. Tithing is great but there is no commandment to tithe under grace only from the heart except for the taking care of the ministry .1rst Corinthians 9:14..